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Apple Cinema 20-inch Flat-Panel Display
Apple Cinema 20-inch Flat-Panel Display
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Avg. Customer Rating: 4.5 out of 5 stars(based on 29 reviews)
Sales Rank: 134
Category: Personal Computer

Publisher: Apple Computer
Studio: Apple Computer
Brand: Apple
Label: Apple Computer
Media: Electronics
Display Size: 20
Warranty: 1 year warranty
Shipping Weight (lbs): 21.6
Dimensions (in): 23.5 x 20.7 x 8.6

MPN: M9177LL/A
Model: M9177LL/A
UPC: 718908806999
EAN: 0718908806999
ASIN: B0002ILKMW

Availability: Usually ships in 3-4 business days

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4 out of 5 stars Awesome display   March 13, 2007
  2 out of 4 found this review helpful

This is an amazing display. The only reason why I give it 4 stars is because of the price. I think that its definitely worth it though. I could've gotten a display for less but I wanted it to match my macbook pro. The amount of real estate on it is incredible. It's also extremely bright, my eyes are still having to adjust to that when the display is on. All in all, apple does it again. The only thing is I hope they don't update it soon cuz i Just got it.


1 out of 5 stars Use a PC? Beware. Apple's attempt to 'reach out' is non-existent   January 7, 2007
  27 out of 45 found this review helpful

I know this monitor is top of the line. (Another big name brand also uses the same high quality S-IPS panel... but that brand seems to have far more complaints of defects despite being half the price... electronics aren't the same as the actual panel...) Back to the panel itself: The panel used is a drool-worthy .0258 dot pitch, true 8-bit, terrific viewing radius, and perfect for graphics uses (though colors should not look like they're 3D as some reviewers on 'net sites claim, that's an unwanted distortion and graphics designers usually want consistency and accuracy. So do their customers. This leads into my gripe I shall now adumbrate upon:)

My big gripe is the purported PC support, of which it gets 4 stars knocked off.

I pre-ordered one of these and then did some research as I had to wait a day for it to arrive. Glad I had, and I truly wish I could have kept the monitor; I was floored by its quality and specs.

The USB ports won't work on a PC. Fine by me, I don't care about USB ports on a monitor. Some will, so that's a caveat if you use a PC.

What I am bothered with is the lack of a Windows ICM and INF driver. That's outrageous. Especially for the price and PC compatibility claims Apple makes. This means some extra color calibration is going to have to be done and the end result is going to be an approximation (beware if anyone says the colors almost seem 3D. That's not always a plus...). Apple ought to know better than this; anyone in mid-end (or higher) professional graphics can not settle for "approximations".

Indeed, because Apple has nothing on its website and attitudes from folks on their own discussion forum that make Linux zealots come across as heavenly angels by comparison, one has to resort to freeware (that's currently at version 0.4!) to use the monitor as there aren't any settings to be found on Apple's casing, except brightness and power. Yawn. Another toy.

I would have expected even a token Windows driver, but when many reviewers have said "Get the freeware, there is no Windows driver provided", that's enough for me to avoid it.

Now some Apple fans might say "Ha ha Windoze user, PC product vendors have been doing this to us for ages so get used to it." I say in return "Well, those device drivers aren't covering every nuance like the PC equivalent does, but at least they grant you base functionality and a driver when they say it's Mac compatible! Apple's own actions are showing the contrary as there is no Windows driver at all." Touche.

So I returned it. I did not want to pay a 15% open-box restock fee for something I'd have to tinker with and may or may not be satisfied with in the end.

And, no, I can't afford the cost of a new Mac whose specs would match my current PC (that cost me less than half as much for the same amount of power, especially when it's only repurchasing Intel components, that's ridiculous.)

Sorry to be so negative as there is a lot to LOVE about this monitor, but those not in the majority position would do better to win converts by truly reaching out to them.

If you're a Mac user, go for it. Apple knows how to make terrific monitors. If you're a PC user, it will work - just don't expect instant gratification, USB ports, or Windows telling you what the brand of monitor is. Be satisfied with "unknown monitor on ___________ video card" using default VESA color settings. That's a bit risky and even Mac users on that Apple forum said to be wary for such an expensive item... and that's good enough for me.

I will add this: A 1 year warranty is unacceptable, regardless of brand. I always advocate purchasing an extended warranty, but a 1 year warranty is the manufacturer's way of telling the consumer "We lack faith in our product" and/or "If there's a problem, we want you to pony up for our bad design".



5 out of 5 stars Best of the best   December 8, 2006
  2 out of 5 found this review helpful

This monitor is of the best. If you are trying to decide between and Apple Cinema Display and something else, go with the ACD. It is a beautiful monitor and you won't be disappointed.


5 out of 5 stars Beautiful Display   June 7, 2006
  4 out of 9 found this review helpful

Apple displays are synonymous with quality. This high quality LCD display is really just about everything you could ever want in an LCD monitor.

Now if only Apple would put down the crack pipe and lower the prices a bit....



5 out of 5 stars updated from a 17" CRT and wanted something to match iMac 20"   April 4, 2006
  10 out of 10 found this review helpful

when I bought my Intel iMac w/20" LCD suddenly everything else looked dull in comparison. This Apple 20" is very close in spec to my iMac 20" screen. Stores like Best Buy do not have good quality 20+" LCDs in yet. You want the 16x9 profile also, the regular square LCDs look dorky in comparison and typically have lower brightness and contrast ratios. The newer stuff is very bright and clear. It is obvious when you go to a store and look at the LCD screens. The cheap $200 LCDs just don't look good in comparison to the new stuff.

Intel iMac screen:
1680x1050
280 cd/m2 (brightness in candle power)
800:1 Contrast ratio

Apple 20" LCD
1680x1050
250 cd/m2
400:1 Contrast
14ms response time (www.apple.com/displays/specs.html)

Other comparables:
Gateway 21" 1680x1050 $599
300 cd/m2 1000:1 contrast

Dell 24" 2405FPW $800
1920 x 1200
500 cd/m2
1000:1 contrast

You should be aiming for at least 300 cd/m2 on brightness and close to 1000:1 contrast. These Apple LCDs have been out for awhile and are starting to show their age in comparison to the brand new products that have just started to come out. If you are using your LCD for a TV you may need the brightness, but for computer work the Mac 20" LCD is just about right.

I paid a few $$$ more ($750 total price) for the Apple LCD, but I feel I made the correct purchase. I just didn't like the way the others looked and it had to look good against my iMac. I actually like this screen better than the one on my iMac and it seems just as bright even if the specs say that it is not. Amazon also boxes the shipment (besides the Apple box) so your screen should arrive undamaged.


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